I am leaving now
see you all in China

梦冉，来去自由，难挽留，奈何！

可我感觉你的离去不是一个理智的决定，尤其考虑到你的海龟身份。你好象是一位
老网人吧，怎么连伊甸的这些并不激进泛泛而谈的批判国人劣根性的文字都不能容
忍，更何况我们欢迎一切反批判，接纳容忍所有不同观点。

你不能忍受宽松自由畅所欲言人人有权各抒己见的伊甸，又能忍受什么样的论坛呢？
批评批判中国的文章充斥着海外各网站，你能找到你认为的理想之地吗？我对此表
示怀疑。赞美中国歌颂中华民族的大陆论坛，大多又被那些为９１１叫好欢呼的愤
青所占据，并且没有言论自由，那是你喜欢呆的地方吗？

欢迎忍无可忍！

你忍无可忍什么呀？伊甸欢迎畅所欲言，想说想骂都可以（只要不是人身攻击），
不需要你忍，你根本没有必要忍，忍到无可忍的地步多难受。你的忍是自找的，
怨不得别人

昨晚10点看了这个系列的第一集. 也推荐大家看看!

Koppel on Discovery: The People's Republic of Capitalism

Watch July 9-12 at 10 p.m. ET/PT

Part 1: Joined at the Hip — Wed., July 9, at 10 p.m. ET/PT

The American and Chinese economies are irreversibly intertwined. The common complaint that the Chinese are taking jobs away from American workers is in many cases true. China's cheap and abundant labor attracts manufacturing from all over the world. Still, American economists estimate that the U.S. is as much as $70 billion richer each year because of its relationship with China —something must be going right.

Wal-Mart, America's largest retailer is able to maintain low prices in part because of cheap Chinese labor. And when Apple sells a $299 iPod (designed in California and assembled in China), the American computer company makes an $80 profit, while the Chinese assembly plant makes just $4.

We'll trace the interconnected web of U.S./China trade, from Mexican migrant workers in North Carolina to a Chongqing teenager working on a boombox assembly line; quality control inspectors at Ethan Allen to a Chinese homemaker shopping at Wal-Mart in Chongqing; and laid-off workers from Briggs & Stratton's Rolla, Missouri plant to the American who runs the Briggs & Stratton plant in Chongqing.

Part 2: MAOism TO MEism — Thur., July 10, at 10 p.m. ET/PT

Chongqing is a city of 13.5 million people — it could be the most populous city that most Americans have never heard of. The largest migration in human history is underway as millions of peasants are on the move from China’s countryside to its booming industrialized cities.

The central government has plans to increase Chongqing’s population to 20 million. This population redistribution, combined with the emergence of capitalism, is having a dramatic effect on Chinese culture. In this episode, we'll profile a cast of characters in and around Chongqing to examine the central issues of traditional values, religion, sexuality and political freedom.

Part 3: The Fast Lane — Fri., July 11, at 10 p.m. ET/PT

China's streets have gone from being jammed with bicycles to being jammed with cars. The nation is adding 25,000 new vehicles to its roads every day — that's more than 9 million a year — and the government is building tens of thousands of miles of new highways. As millions of new drivers hit the road, this newfound freedom is bringing more accidents, more traffic and more pollution.

China will soon become the world's largest producer of cars as well as the biggest market for new cars. Foreign automakers like GM and Ford are already enjoying huge success in China — today, more Buicks are sold in China than in the U.S. Meanwhile, Chinese automakers are planning an assault on the U.S. market with low-cost cars and they hope to be in American showrooms as early as next year.

Part 4: It's the Economy, Stupid — Sat., July 12, at 10 p.m. ET/PT

China has lifted 300 million people out of poverty in less than a generation. It's a remarkable feat, but one that has had profound and often harmful consequences. In this episode, we'll look at the downsides of a booming economy.

Pollution is one of the biggest problems. China powers its economy primarily with coal, a dirty fuel that blackens its skies and cities. Ted Koppel descends 1,000 feet into a coal mine to show the work and danger involved in relying on coal to fuel the country's industries.

With increased investment in infrastructure and new business, corruption is an escalating problem that costs China billions of dollars a year. Koppel explains what the government is doing to stamp it out.

Finally, we'll examine the thorny issue of human rights and how China's economy continues to thrive despite the suppression of free speech and the iron fist of the Communist party. Capitalism, after all, is merely an economic system. While China has wholeheartedly embraced a capitalist economy, it still governs its people with communism's authoritarian rule.

ABOUT THE SERIES

Koppel on Discovery is produced by Discovery Channel's managing editor, Ted Koppel and Tom Bettag, executive producer. They are joined by a team of some of the best researchers and producers in the industry.

Together they are producing a slate of long-form programming exclusively for Discovery Channel that touches on some of the most important events, people and places changing lives today. From field reporting to script writing, every aspect of the series is shaped by Koppel's 42 years of experience and unparalleled journalistic integrity.

啊呀，梦冉没走。她这个帖子是美国出差完了，离开美国、回中国后再和我们说话。
一个个真能闹的。

原来梦冉告别美国了，刚来就走，怎么也不来和我们聚聚，给我们好好谈谈祖国的沧
海桑田日新月异，就匆匆走啦？

祝梦冉一路平安！期望你不要离开伊甸，你看，我们可以接纳并亲近中共党员青冈、
亲共分子小赵、西楼等，希望你也能容忍假洋鬼子或汉奸的我们

Thank you Lucy for sharing.

Didn't realized Ted Koppel has joined force with the Discovery Channel. Ever since he left "NIghtline", I have stopped watching the show. (An unintended benefit being, of course, I can go to sleep earlier.) Nightline w/o Ted Koppel is never the same. His calm, cool, composed demeanor, coupled with his impartial and measured reporting,  is unparalleled among all TV anchors.

“你看，我们可以接纳并亲近中共党员青冈、亲共分子小赵、西楼等，希望你也能容忍假洋鬼子或汉奸的我们”

你也别乱划分“阶级成分”了。;)
梦冉在美国呆了十年，我猜想她现在拿得是美国护照(不对我收回)。本来是一堆特立独行的写文人们，共同一个祖宗，共享中国字。说到底，都是孤独人、边缘人(因为见解独立嘛)，谁也别代表这个、代表那个了，更不要试图改变其他网友们对事物的个人观点。

大家都在批酱缸文化，可是这条线就充满着酱缸文化的色彩。

诸位在西方生活很久了，每次辞职换工作时，不知有多少老板或人事处领导苦口婆
心地做你们的思想工作劝留？走和留是人家的自由，不管是强迫和劝说，都是在干
涉人家的自由。

这位梦同学受到伊甸的如此欢迎和厚爱，想必昔日海龟的时候，肯定也是谢绝了国
外的高薪聘请和多方挽留，克服重重困难和险阻，才回到祖国的怀抱。

大力又差了不是？

酱缸文化的典型表现就是拉帮结派，顺我者昌逆我者亡，排斥打击异己不遗余力，
而我们现在是唯恐伊甸缺少了大陆梦冉、青冈、小赵、西楼这些“持不同政见者”，
变得仅仅剩下一个单调乏味的声音，一种齐刷刷没精打采的颜色。

如果我们顺水推舟地欢送而不是诚心诚意地挽留梦冉，大力会不会又说我们是酱缸
文化排斥异己？我们真是左右为难，究竟该怎么做，才不会掉进你的大酱缸呢？

哪天大力来我家做客，闲谈间有点小磨擦，大力站起来就要走人，俺说：大力，这点
磨擦算啥，再坐会吧，我们继续聊。大力愤怒答道：你不让我走，是干涉我的自由。

这都哪跟哪呀，脚长在你身上，俺想干涉行得通吗，又没有ＧＣＤ那广大神通，叫你
向东你别想向西。

你给俺们扣上“干涉他人自由”这顶大帽子，又是不是酱缸文化呢？

谁也别说谁了。：))
客观些好。

主观上，谁都希望参加的网站符合自己的愿望。但客观上，伊甸文苑是园丁们和网友们辛勤耕耘两年后的共同成果。哪个人，不管你认为自己是文学大家，还是网络混混，都不可能改变伊甸园现有的文化(cultrue)和精神(spirit)。
我们唯一能做的是奉献、参与、耕耘......
耐心、不懈、辛勤的努力才有可能获得结果。

我只是一些意见, 供参考. 我的工作比较忙, 忙里偷闲还认真了一把, 我也是为了大家好. 也游行了一把. 嘿嘿. 我居然还有这么一份幽默. 希望大家能比较认真地听进去我的意见.

谢谢LUCY, 你的话让我觉得很温暖. "我们都爱你", 我刹那间很感动, 真想说:"我也爱你们!". 心领了! 保重.

梦冉，
伊甸文苑建立两年，有许多象你一样的网友们，都是因为看重、在乎伊甸园，才这么认真的。
但我必须要强调：伊甸园强调个性、倡导百家争鸣。唯有这样，我们才有可能写好作品。

我们在做一件很不容易的事情，恳请各位体谅！

梦冉回来就好, 否则我会灰头土脸的!

悟空: 昨晚你看了吗? 你多讲吧!!!!